OOC Chatter

[Kaito Oubaihime]

Continues sweeping naively

[Saibankan]

So I have read the duelling rules. Several times.

I would like to profess my absolute hate for all designers of duelling rules in L5R, all editions included. Rarely have I seen such enthusiasm and consistency at not only attempting to reach maximum useless complexity, but also at blatantly ignoring everything your colleagues have designed for the rest of the book and build a completely alien set of rules just for the purpose of that single action.

Hurray for mandatory mini-games?

[Shika Nesshin]

*is lost*
*may be able to do some catching up*
*is uncertain*

[Kitsu Moshumaru]

So I have read the duelling rules. Several times.

I would like to profess my absolute hate for all designers of duelling rules in L5R, all editions included. Rarely have I seen such enthusiasm and consistency at not only attempting to reach maximum useless complexity, but also at blatantly ignoring everything your colleagues have designed for the rest of the book and build a completely alien set of rules just for the purpose of that single action.

That's the appeal of dueling in 4e to me, honestly - it's a mini game, sure, but it's short and it's unique rules make it feel like a special occasion every time it happens. Maybe it's because I'm used to 4e duels but they don't really feel all that bloated to me, though I respect that's my opinion.
Feels like there's just enough there to do everything you need to, besides maybe some cheaty stuff like rolling instead of striking first or throwing dust in someone's eye.

FFGe I absolutely agree on, however.

[Saibankan]

So I have read the duelling rules. Several times.

I would like to profess my absolute hate for all designers of duelling rules in L5R, all editions included. Rarely have I seen such enthusiasm and consistency at not only attempting to reach maximum useless complexity, but also at blatantly ignoring everything your colleagues have designed for the rest of the book and build a completely alien set of rules just for the purpose of that single action.

That's the appeal of dueling in 4e to me, honestly - it's a mini game, sure, but it's short and it's unique rules make it feel like a special occasion every time it happens. Maybe it's because I'm used to 4e duels but they don't really feel all that bloated to me, though I respect that's my opinion.
Feels like there's just enough there to do everything you need to, besides maybe some cheaty stuff like rolling instead of striking first or throwing dust in someone's eye.

FFGe I absolutely agree on, however.

I preferred the tension of 3e dueling. Focus....focus...focuuuussssss....strike!

[Moto Mitsuki]

Okay, did some emergency changes to Sakkaku in prevision of the duel(s) (did you know the dueling rules are the only place in all books where a ring die can be transformed into a skill die?).

Likely a few rough edges here and there (the interface to transform dice is still terrible), but at least all cases should be covered now.

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In my opinion, duels in 4ed force duelists to play a whole different game than every other players.

Either you're a duelling machine, and you're good at nothing else, and therefore only useful if a duel happens... So you try to make them happen.

Or you suck at duels and then your goal is to avoid duels as much as possible.

[Kitsu Moshumaru]

Okay, did some emergency changes to Sakkaku in prevision of the duel(s) (did you know the dueling rules are the only place in all books where a ring die can be transformed into a skill die?).

Likely a few rough edges here and there (the interface to transform dice is still terrible), but at least all cases should be covered now.

Thanks again for your hard work! Chances are the game would have taken twice the required time without your help.

[Shika Nesshin]

Indeed!

Laud and honor!

[Shiba Raizo]

We're all going to be so confused on Day 12

[Shika Nesshin]

I think I've gotten a start on that.