OOC Chatter

[Shiba Raizo]

It's also absolute trash for PbP, which is all the L5R I play- all the choices you're supposed to make and keep under your hat being clunkily doled out post by post...

I hated dueling in 4E, but at least the system could be fully summed up in one flowchart.
It... also made duels to first blood less absurdly potentially lethal.

[Kitsu Murato]

It's also absolute trash for PbP, which is all the L5R I play- all the choices you're supposed to make and keep under your hat being clunkily doled out post by post...

I hated dueling in 4E, but at least the system could be fully summed up in one flowchart.
It... also made duels to first blood less absurdly potentially lethal.

Yeah, I pretty much hate this

[Shiba Raizo]

I vote we use CCG-style dueling moving forward

[Moto Mitsuki]

I vote we use CCG-style dueling moving forward

Which one? They changed the rules every arc.

[Shiba Raizo]

Which one?

Yes.

[Moto Mitsuki]

The secret of dueling in the CCG was always to have a big magical weapon and to only challenge people with a dueling stat far lower than your own anyway.

The true secret of victory: Never fight an opponent who could stand a chance against you.

[Shiba Raizo]

The true secret of victory: Never fight an opponent who could stand a chance against you.

Hey, it's kind of the Kakita's whole thing.

[Moto Mitsuki]

[Actually, that damage puts Raizo 1 point over his Endurance and thus into Incapacitated, which I'm PRETTY SURE, even in 5E's horseshit system, means the duel is over

Technically.

Incapacitated is not unconscious, it's more of a standing knock-out, when the brain has frozen over from blows/stress.

So a round 4 should theoretically happen. Raizo would get a chance to concede at the start of it, and things would end up exactly as they ended up in thread if they did, so no issue there.

However, if somehow he had chosen to continue, then, things would get even funnier.

Both characters would be compromised at the start of it (+4 strife for each). Since Raizo is unable to take any action requiring a check, only Murato would get the Finishing Blow... However the Finishing Blow is not an auto-hit.

So, since he is compromised himself, Murato is likely to miss it.

Then it's Murato's normal turn, and he gets another change to hit, the normal way. If he succeeds, since Raizo is Incapacitated, it'll be an auto-critical, and Raizo would be knocked unconscious this time (automatic if the character is already incapacitated).

Should he failed however, Raizo could go Water Stance on his turn, use Calming Breath to have exactly as much fatigue as endurance, not be incapacitated again and thus be allowed to strike and get his own chance to hit with his second action.

Should Raizo also fail to hit, or simply not get the critical because Murato himself is not incapacitated yet, the slap fight would go on for yet another turn (no more Finishing Blow though).

[Shiba Raizo]

Congratulations, 5E. You've made me look on 4E's Iaijutsu rules with something other than loathing.

[Moto Mitsuki]

I wouldn't go that far. That plague has a higher mortality rate does not really make cholera better. Or is it the other way around?

The only thing worth remembering here is that having more Fatigue than Endurance only means you're (way) more vulnerable to wounds and conditions, but it does not inflict wounds or conditions other than Incapacitated directly (unless, of course, I missed yet another sidebar). That, that's the job of critical strikes.